Bruce Springsteen’s battles with depression have been public knowledge since a profile in the New Yorker in 2012. It’s a subject he writes about in depth in his upcoming autobiography, Born to Run, and he spoke about his most recent struggles on today’s (Sept. 18) of CBS Sunday Morning.

“It lasted for a long time,” he said in the video above. “It would last for a year, and then it would slip away, then it would come back for a year and a half.”

He’s dealt with it through therapy, antidepressants and the support of his wife, Patti Scialfa. But he added that, as often as it’s struck him, he can never predict when it’s going to occur next.

“It sneaks up on you,” he said. “It’s like this thing that engulfs you. I got to where I didn’t want to get out of bed, you know? And you’re not behaving very well at home, and you’re tough on everybody — hopefully not the kids; I always tried to hide it from the kids. Patti really had to work with me through it and … her strength and the love she had was very important as far as guiding me through it. She was, ‘Well, you’re gonna be okay. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow but it’s gonna be alright.’”

While depression has affected his home life, he was somehow always able to switch it off when it came time to make music.

“For some reason it never affected my work or any of my playing,” he said. “It was something if I was dead down, when I came into the studio, I could work.”

The interview also features Springsteen going through his hometown of Freehold, N.J., the loss of E Street Band saxophonist Clarence Clemons and his relationship with his father. Born to Run will be released this Friday, Sept. 23.

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